Bad Trackers...

[bonehead1617]

Hi Guys,
             Just wondering if anybody keeps lists of bad trackers? I've gotten quite a few cease and desist letters that my ip provider has passed along. Some of them have the ip of the tracker who sent it to them. I very much enjoy the quality of torrents from axxo but I've stopped downloading them because of one of their trackers. Is there a way to ban these trackers from the torrents downloading? The bad ones I know of are:         tracker.torrent.to:2710/announce
               218.145.160.136:8080/announce
               tracker.ktxp.com:6868/announce

Is there a website that publishes all of them? Anyone know of others? Just curious. Thanks and long live H33t.

[Blazer]

http://fenopy.com/tracker/index.html

http://fenopy.com/fakefinder/

[Naughty Knights]

Just remove them from your tracker list before you start downloading.


tracker.ktxp.com:6868/announce ? Looks like this tracker is not on the blacklist yet.
the other two are.

 I find it interesting that h33t is on the list of bad trackers 

[bonehead1617]

Naughty,
   Where is my tracker list? and how can I remove them if the torrent site doesn't show all trackers? Mininova is good for this. I use utorrent.

[Naughty Knights]

Naughty,
   Where is my tracker list? and how can I remove them if the torrent site doesn't show all trackers? Mininova is good for this. I use utorrent.

If you are using uTorrent 1.8.x or newer it's under the trackers tab
If you don't see a trackers tab, just point to the torrent and click properties
all the trackers are listed and you can delete whichever you wish.
If you delete too many or the wrong ones, just  run the xxx.torrent file again and
it will ask if you want to reload the trackers 

[Adapa]

http://fenopy.com/tracker/index.html

http://fenopy.com/fakefinder/

That site is a joke. 

Name a public tracker, any public tracker, and quite a few private ones and you will be sure to find it listed there because some dumbass sometime downloaded a fake or something their AVG claimed contained a virus.

tracker.torrent.to:2710/announce certainly is a commonly used Open Tracker, there's nothing wrong with it.  Probably nothing wrong with the other two either though I've never heard of them.

[Naughty Knights]

Well I did kinda point out that h33t is listed as a fake, so is demonoid

An accurate list would be quite useful, anyone got any ideas ?
May be easier to build a "not fake" list.

1. h33t
2. demonoid
3. tpb
4.

[Adapa]

Well I did kinda point out that h33t is listed as a fake, so is demonoid

Yep, you did.  But I would hate to think Blazer might be consulting that list when he's reviewing torrents.

If you are using uTorrent 1.8.x or newer it's under the trackers tab
If you don't see a trackers tab, just point to the torrent and click properties
all the trackers are listed and you can delete whichever you wish.
If you delete too many or the wrong ones, just  run the xxx.torrent file again and
it will ask if you want to reload the trackers 

That's good advice.  You can delete any trackers you want for any reason you want at any time.  [Better yet, just change the address from "http://" to "hxxp://"  That way you disable the entry but can easily restore it later if you wish.  The trackers tab will report an error for that tracker--but that makes sense and is harmless.]

[Blazer]

I used to use the fake finder portion for checking hash's last year (before I was a torrent mod here).

I don't consult fenopy for anything now, but thought the OP might want to look around.

I can't say that any tracker is really bad.

IMO private trackers are bad.  Public trackers are good.

It's the agenda of, and the people in the swarms that you have to be cautious about.

[Naughty Knights]

Back to square 1 for a minute,
@-- bonehead can you provide the exact wording of one of these letters where the
tracker is mentioned ?
Be sure to block out your ip address, your ISP and any personal info about yourself.

[bonehead1617]

>
> The Entertainment Software Association (ESA) is a trade association that
represents the intellectual property interests of numerous companies that publish
interactive games for video game consoles, personal computers, handheld devices and
the Internet in the United States of America, in Canada, and in other countries
(collectively referred to as ESA members).  ESA is authorized to act on behalf of ESA
members whose copyright and other intellectual property rights it believes to be
infringed as described h
erein.
>
> ESA is providing this letter of notification to make xxxxxxxxx
aware of material on its network or system that infringes the exclusive copyright
rights of and is unlawful towards one or more ESA members.
>
> ESA members are entitled to the full protection of Canadian intellectual
property laws, including the Copyright Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-42, as amended, in such
entertainment software products. 
>
> Based on the information at its disposal on 28 Feb 2008 09:21:49 GMT, ESA has a
good faith belief that xxxxxxxxxxxx infringes the rights of one or more ESA members
by offering for sale or download unauthorized copies of game products protected by
copyright, or offering for sale or download material that is the subject of
infringing activities.  The copyrighted works that have been infringed include but
are not limited to:
>
> Title: Pac-Man
> Infringement Source: BitTorrent
> Infringement Timestamp: 28 Feb 2008 09:21:49 GMT
> Infringement Last Documented: 28 Feb 2008 09:21:49 GMT
> Infringer Username:
> Infringing Filename: Pacman.World.3-RELOADED[http://www.moviex.info]
> Infringing Filesize: 1382631891
> Infringer IP Address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Infringer DNS Name: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Infringing URL: http://tracker.torrent.to:2710/announce
>
>
> The unauthorized copies of such game product(s) or the material that is the
subject of infringing activities appears on or is made available through
xxxxxxxxxxxxx.  Those items are listed and/or identified thereon by their titles or
variations thereof, game-related listings/references/descriptions, or depictions of
game-related artwork.  Such copies, titles, game-related
listings/references/descriptions, depictions, and material that is the subject of
infringing activities, are hereinafter referred to as
"Infringing Material." 
>
> Accordingly, ESA hereby requests xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to immediately do the
following:
>
> 1.    Notify the account holder of the Infringing Material.
> 2.     Remove, or disable access to, the Infringing Material detailed above.
> 3.     Take appropriate action against the account holder under your Abuse
Policy/Terms
>     of Service Agreement, including termination of a repeat offender.
>
> Please inform us whether you will remove or disable access to the Infringing
Material as requested.  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or the account holder may contact ESA
at the above-listed contact details, with email preferred.  Please include the
above-noted Reference Number in the subject line of all email correspondence.
>
> Thank you for your cooperation and prompt response in this matter.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Intellectual Property Enforcement
> Entertainment Software Association
> - ---Start ACNS XML
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
>
> <Infringement xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://mpto.unistudios.com/xml/Infringement_schema.xsd";
>
>   <Case>
>     xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <Status>Open</Status>
>   </Case>
>   <Complainant>
>     <Entity>Entertainment Software Association</Entity>
>     <Contact>Anti-Piracy Enforcement, Intellectual Property Enforcement
Manager</Contact>
>     <Address>575 7th Street, NW Suite 300, Washington, D. C. 20004 United
States of America</Address>
>     <Phone>1(202) 223-2400,1(202) 223-2401</Phone>
>     <Email>esa@copyright-compliance.com</Email>
>   </Complainant>
>   <Service_Provider>
>     xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <Address></Address>
>     xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   </Service_Provider>
>   <Source>
>     <TimeStamp>2008-02-28T09:21:49.000Z</TimeStamp>
>     <IP_Address>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <Port></Port>
>     <DNS_Name>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <Type>BitTorrent</Type>
>     <UserName></UserName>
>     <Number_Files>1</Number_Files>
>     <Deja_Vu>No</Deja_Vu>
>   </Source>
>   <Content>
>     <Item>
>       <Title>Pac-Man</Title>
>     
<FileName>Pacman.World.3-RELOADED[http://www.moviex.info]</FileName>
>       <FileSize>1382631891</FileSize>
>       <URL>http://tracker.torrent.to:2710/announce</URL>
>     </Item>
>   </Content>
> </Infringement>
> - ---End ACNS XML
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: 8.0
>
>
>
> =jInk
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


Didn't know what a pgp sig is but I deleted it anyway. What is it? Is not the infringing url the ones that reported it? Every time this tracker is involved I seem to get a letter. Thanks for the help.

[Blazer]

The interesting part is that "Pacman.World.3-RELOADED" never made it into the index. 

You didn't get it from h33t unless you grabbed it from the persons stats page before it was even approved into the index.

I identified it as spammer trash and rejected it immediately along with the other offending uploads by that person.

Most likely it was an anti-p2p trap aimed to catch downloaders.

You jumped the gun and got it before the moderators deleted it.

The trackers used have little or nothing to do with it. 

Again, it's the swarm that you were in or possibly the creator of the torrent that got you.

[XxBraveGuyxX]

..................................................


Use Bitcomet.........Bitcomet lets u remove trackers and even add trackers........


And guess what if u have bitcomet and u have port fordwarding going on .....your download speed of torrents will be around 1mbps ......


And guess bitcomet is the only thing out there that mess with megaupload severs so that u can download three links from megaupload simultaneoulsy......as an free user and not only that once u r done downloading those three links u wont have to wait for an hour or so to download another links.....it keeps going baby......


Bitcomet is awesome.....i love it.....and even u could have password...which means everytime you open bitcomet it will ask for password....awesome right?

[Naughty Knights]

@--XxBraveGuyxX , your evangelical attitude about bitcomet really has nothing to do with infrengemet
letters or fake trackers

@-- bonehead, that looks like a standard letter, the fact that they put the tracker in
doesn't mean the tracker is an agent of the ESA. In fact you would think they wouldn't
include the tracker name if they were using it as a tool.
Still removing it would be a wise idea, no matter which client you use.

[Adapa]

I used to use the fake finder portion for checking hash's last year (before I was a torrent mod here).

I don't consult fenopy for anything now, but thought the OP might want to look around.

I can't say that any tracker is really bad.

IMO private trackers are bad.  Public trackers are good.

It's the agenda of, and the people in the swarms that you have to be cautious about.

Well said.

> The Entertainment Software Association (ESA) is...

That's an interesting letter--it's different to what we normally see--read it carefully and note how it's not accusing you of uploading or downloading anything, rather it's accusing you of "making available".  Google "making available" and you will see that lawsuits based on that concept haven't been very successful.  [Though the jury is still out in the TPB case, which is based on it.]  So, you basically have nothing to fear from the ESA.

However, your ISP could decide you're causing them too much hassle, and terminate your contract.  That's the worst that could realistically happen and it's highly unlikely.  You send them a check every month and the ESA doesn't.  And they really don't want the responsibility or cost of policing their customers, not to mention the risk of losing customers that they would face were they to do so.

Is not the infringing url the ones that reported it?

Almost certainly not.

1. That tracker has been around for several years.  If it was a sting then large no's of people would have been stung before now and, if you google for it, you won't find many complaints.

2. It's used by aXXo.  Like him or loathe him he's a huge target for anti-p2p agencies and the fact that he hasn't been caught yet suggests pretty strongly that he's a good judge of what's safe.



What it most likely means is that the ESA have taken a copy of that torrent and recorded the IP addresses supplied to them by whatever trackers were contained within it.  After removing any duplicates, and non-Canadian addresses, they've sent out form letters to the ISP's of whatever is left. 

And guess what if u have bitcomet and u have port fordwarding going on .....your download speed of torrents will be around 1mbps ......

O RLY?

You don't think the speed of the swarm has anything to do with it?  Or the amount of download bandwidth you have?  Or whether you've configured your client properly?